Reminiscences of President Joseph F. Smith
Improvement Era, vol. 22, no. 3, January 1919, pp. 191 to 198
Nibley, Charles W.
Reminiscences of President Joseph F.
Smith
By Charles W . Nibley, Presiding Bisliop of the Church
The Era has asked me to write a few remembrances of inci-
dents connected with my personal association with the late Presi-
dent Joseph F. Smith, while they are yet fresh in memory, and
it is a pleasure to comply.
The first time I ever remember seeing Joseph F. Smith was
in the then little village of Wellsville, in the year 1867. He was
twenty-eight years of age, and had recently been chosen one of
the Twelve Apostles. President Brigham Young and company
were making a tour of the northern settlements, and the new
apostle, Joseph F. Smith, was among the number. I heard him
preach in the old meetinghouse at Wellsville, and I remarked at
the time what a fine specimen of young manhood he was —
strong, powerful, with a beautiful voice, so full of sympathy and
affection, so appealing in its tone, that he impressed me, although
I was a youth of but eighteen. He was a handsome man.
At that time I was clerking in a little store owned by Father
Ira Ames, one of the old Kirtland veterans of the Church.
Apostle George A. Smith was one of that company and he was
entertained at Brother Ames' home, where I also lived. I recall
that at the dinner table, Father Ames asked George A. who of
the Smiths this young man Joseph F. was.
George A. replied that he was Hyrum's son; his mother,
Mary Fielding Smith.
Brother Ames remarked that he looked like a likely young
fellow, and George A. replied in about these words :
"Yes, I think he will be all right. His father and mother
left him when he was a child, and we have been looking after
him to try and help him along. We first sent him to school, but
it was not long before he licked the schoolmaster, and could not
go to school. Then we sent him on a mission, and he did pretty
well at that. I think he will make good as an apostle."
Some years ago I related this incident to President Smith,
and he told me that the reason he had trouble with the school-
master was that the schoolmaster had a leather strap with which
he used to chastise the children. He was a rather hard-hearted
schoolmaster, one of the olden type that believed in inflicting
bodily punishment.
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President Smith said: "My little sister was called up (Aunt
Martha, now living in Provo) to be punished. I saw the school-
master bring out the leather strap, and he told the child to hold
out her hand. I could not stand for that. I just spoke up loud-
ly and said, 'Don't whip her with that,' and at that he came at
me and was going to whip me, and instead of him whipping me,
I licked him good and plenty."
At the time of this incident, Joseph F. (for by that name
he was affectionately called) was about fifteen years of age. But
he was a strong, powerful youth, and his big heart could not
tolerate such punishment, especially if it bordered on the cruel,
to be inflicted upon a little child.
Another incident which I have heard him relate which
shows his courage and integrity, occurred when he was returning
from his mission to the Sandwich Islands, in the fall of 1857.
He came home by way of Los Angeles, by what was called the
Southern Route. In that year Johnston's Army was on the move
for Utah, and naturally enough there was much excitement and
bitterness of feeling concerning the "Mormons." In southern
California, just after the little train of wagons had traveled only
a short distance and made their camp, several anti-"Mormon"
toughs rode into the camp on horseback, cursing and swearing
and threatening what they would do to the "Mormons." Joseph
F. was a little distance from the camp gathering wood for the
fire, but he saw that the few members of his own party had
cautiously gone into the brush down the creek, out of sight.
When he saw that, he told me, the thought came into his mind,
"Shall I run from these fellows? Why should I fear them?"
With that he marched up with his arm full of wood to the
campfire where one of the ruffians, still with his pistol in his
hand, shouting and cursing about the "Mormons," in a loud
voice said to Joseph F.,
"Are you a 'Mormon'?"
And the answer came straight, "Yes, sir, true blue, through
and through."
At that the ruffian grasped him by the hand and said,
"Shake, young fellow, I am glad to see a man that stands up for
his convictions."
These incidents show the inherent bravery, courage, in-
tegrity, of the man, and also tenderness and pity for the little
helpless sister. These are the qualities upon which great men
are builded.
In the spring of 1877, I was called to accompany President
Smith on a mission to Europe. I was called by him to labor in
the business affairs of the Liverpool office, and from that time
until the day of his death, I think I have enjoyed his personal
confidence more than any man living. When I look back on it
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all now, I can see what a treasure, a blessing, a favor from the
Almighty it has been to me.
During the last eleven years, especially, I have traveled with
him almost constantly whenever he has gone from home. I have
been with him on three different trips to Europe, including the
first missionary trip above mentioned, and on four trips to the
Sandwich Islands. Everywhere, and on all occasions, I have
found him the same great, brave, true-hearted, noble and mag-
nificent leader, so simple and unaffected, so entirely democratic
and unassuming.
He was always careful with his expenditures, too. He ab-
horred debt, and no man have I ever known who was so prompt
to pay an obligation to the last penny. He could not rest until
the Church was out of debt, and though hundreds of schemes,
and many of them extra good schemes, too, were presented to
him, which no doubt would have meant an increase of wealth
for the Church, yet he resolutely set his face against debt; and
would not, under any conditions or circumstances involve the
Church in that way. Neither would he himself become involved
in debt in his own individual affairs, but persistently stuck to the
old motto, "Pay as you go."
Many of the older people now alive can recall that forty
years ago, or even less, he was considered a radical, and many
a one of that time shook his head and said, "What will become
of things if that fiery radical ever becomes president of the
Church?" But from the time he was made president of the
Church, and even before that time, he became one of the most
tolerant of men; tolerant of others' opinions, and while he
would denounce sin with such righteous wrath as you would
seldom see in any man, yet for the poor sinner he had compas-
sion and pity, and even forgiveness, if sincere repentance were
shown. None more ready than he to forgive and forget.
One touching little incident I recall which occurred on our
first trip to the Sandwich Islands. As we landed at the wharf
in Honolulu, the native Saints were out in great numbers with
their wreaths of leis, beautiful flowers of every variety and hue.
We were loaded with them, he, of course, more than anyone else.
The noted Hawaiian band was there playing welcome as it often
does to incoming steamship companies. But on this occasion
the band had been instructed by the Mayor to go up to the "Mor-
mon" meetinghouse and there play selections during the festiv-
ities which the natives had arranged for. It was a beautiful
sight to see the deep-seated love, the even tearful affection that
these people had for him. In the midst of it all I noticed a
poor old blind woman, tottering under the weight of about
ninety years, being led in. She had a few choice bananas in
her hand. It was her all — her offering. She was calling, "Iosepa,
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Iosepa." Instantly, when he saw her, he ran to her and clasped
her in his arms, hugged her, and kissed her over and over again,
patting her on the head saying, "Mama, Mama, my dear old
Mama."
And with tears streaming down his cheeks he turned to me
and said, "Charlie, she nursed me when I was a boy, sick and
without anyone to care for me. She took me in and was a
mother to me."
Oh, it was touching — it was pathetic. It was beautiful to
see the great, noble soul in loving tender remembrance of kind-
ness extended to him, more than fifty years before; and the
poor old soul who had brought her love offering — a few bananas
— it was all she had — to put into the hand of her loved Iosepa!
Oh these ocean trips there was much spare time, and we
often whiled away an hour or two playing checkers. He could
play a good game of checkers, much better than I. In fact, he
could beat me four times out of five, but once in a while, when
I played more cautiously, and no doubt when he was more care-
less, I could beat him. If he was beating me right along and I
made an awkward move, and could see instantly that I had moved
the wrong checker, he would allow me to draw it back if I
noticed it immediately; but on the other hand, if I had beaten
him for a game or two and should put my finger on a checker
to draw it back, even though it were on the instant, he would
call out with force enough, and in that positive way of his, "No
you don't, you leave it right there." It is in these little inci-
dents that we show the human side of our natures.
He loved sport — manly sport. He was a natural athlete;
and in his youth at foot-racing, jumping, wrestling, which were
among the primitive sports of primitive days, he was a match
for anyone. In later years I had induced him to take up with
the ancient and royal Scottish game of golf. He got so that he
could play a very good game, excellent indeed for a man of his
years. But on one occasion, down at Santa Monica, when we
were playing, we were up within about one hundred feet of the
flag at the hole we were making for. A slight stroke should
have driven the ball nearer the flag, but the inclination to look
up as one tries to hit the ball got the best of him, and the
consequence was he topped the ball and it rolled only a couple
of feet or so. He bent over for the next stroke, and the one
thing which all golfers most fear, and the hardest to overcome, is
that habit of looking up or taking the eye off the ball just as
you go to strike. This he did, the second time, when he topped
it again and it moved but a few feet further. The third time he
went up to it and hit it a whack that sent it rolling one hundred
feet beyond the flag. His son, Wesley, who was playing with us,
called out, "Why, papa, what did you do that for? You knew
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it would roll away down there in the ditch!" The President
straightened up and said, rather severely, "Well, I was mad at
it !" I have laughed hundreds of times at that, "I was mad at it."
Of course, we agreed well together, otherwise we would not
have been companionable during all these years. But sometimes
I could not fully agree with him on some matters that we dis-
cussed. I recall one night we were on shipboard returning from
Europe, in 1906. It was a bright moonlight night, and we stood
there leaning over the railing enjoying the smooth sea and balmy
summer night air. The Smoot investigation, which had just
occurred a little while before and which had stirred up so much
controversy throughout the land was fresh in our minds, and we
were talking of it. I took the position that it would be unwise
for Reed Smoot to be re-elected to the United States Senate. I
was conscientious in my objection, and I had marshaled all the
facts, arguments, and logic, that I could; and I was well in-
formed, I thought, on the subject, and had presented them to
him in as clear and yet in as adroit a manner as I possibly could.
It would take too much space here to go over the arguments,
but it seemed to me that I had the best of it. I could see he
began to listen with some little impatience, and yet he let me
have my say, but he answered in tones and in a way that I shall
never forget. Bringing his fist down with some force on the
railing between us, he said, in the most forceful and positive
manner:
"If ever the Spirit of the Lord has manifested to me any-
thing clear and plain and positive, it is this, that Reed Smoot
should remain in the United States Senate. He can do more
good there than he can anywhere else."
Of course, I did not contend further with him, but accepted
from that hour his view of the case and made it mine, too.
Twelve years have passed since that time, and looking back on
it now, I cannot help but think how marvelously and splendidly
the inspiration of the Almighty has been vindicated, while my
argument, facts and logic have all fallen to the ground.
During the last six or eight years, hundreds of prominent
people, Democrats as well as Republicans, passing through Salt
Lake City, even Secretary McAdoo, himself, among them, have
stated to President Smith that Utah had a great big man in the
United States Senate in the person of Senator Reed Smoot.
President Smith's judgment, or rather his inspiration in this
matter, has been vindicated to the last degree.
As a preacher of righteousness, who could compare with
him? He was the greatest that I ever heard — strong, powerful,
clear, appealing. It was marvelous how the words of living
light and fire flowed from him. He was a born preacher, and
yet he did not set himself up to be such. He never thought
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highly of his own great qualities. Rather, he was simple, plain
and unaffected to the last degree; and yet, there was a dignity
with it all which enabled anyone and everyone to say : "He is a
man among men!" As preacher, leader, teacher, husband,
father, citizen and man, I ask, who among our mighty ones can
be likened unto hirn?
He loved a good story and a good joke. There was a good
laugh in him always. He had no patience with vile stories, but
there was a fine vein of humor in him, and he could relate inci-
dents of his early life and entertain the crowd about him as few
men ever could.
He was the most methodical in all his work of any person I
ever knew. Every letter that he received had to be endorsed by
him with the date and any other information, and all carefully
filed away. He could not stand for disorder. Everything in
connection with his work was orderly. He could pack his suit-
case or a trunk and line out and smooth out every piece of cloth-
ing in it so that it would hold more and be better packed than
if anybody else had done it. His clothes, too, were always clean.
Most men as they grow old are likely to have their clothes more
or less spotted through dropping food on their clothing. But
not so with him. To his last day his clothes were as clean and
as well taken care of as if he had been a young man of thirty.
He was a most strenuous worker and never considered saving
himself at all. You could go up to his little office in the Bee-
hive most any night when he was well, and find him writing
letters or attending to some other work. Perhaps some dear old
soul had written him a personal letter, and he would work into
the night answering it with his own hand. Indeed, he over-
worked himself and no doubt injured his strong constitution.
He was careless about eating — careless as to what he ate and
when he ate. His living was exceedingly simple and plain. He
rarely got to bed before midnight, and the consequence was he
did not get sufficient sleep and rest.
He was very fond of music and loved to sing the songs of
Zion.
His love for little children was unbounded. During the trip
we took last year down through the southern settlements to St.
George and return, when the troops of little children were
paraded before him, it was beautiful to see how he adored these
little ones. It was my duty to try and get the company started,
to make time to the next settlement where the crowds would be
waiting for us, but it was a difficult task to pull him away from
the little children. He wanted to shake hands with and talk
to every one of them-
Once in a while someone would come up to him and say,
"President Smith, I believe I am a kinsman of yours."
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I knew then that we were good for another ten minutes'
delay, for that great heart of his, that went out to every kinsman
as well as to the little children, could not be torn away quickly
from anyone claiming kinship with him.
I have visited at his home when one of his little children
was down sick. I have seen him come home from his work at
night tired, as he naturally would be, and yet he would walk the
floor for hours with that little one in his arms, petting it and
loving it, encouraging it in every way with such tenderness and
such a soul of pity and love as not one mother in a thousand
would show.
While he was a hard-headed, successful business man, yet
very few in this dispensation have been more gifted with spir-
itual insight than he. As we were returning from an eastern
trip, some years ago, on the train just east of Green River, 1 saw
him go out to the end of the car on the platform, and imme-
diately return and hesitate a moment, and then sit down in the
seat just ahead of me. He had just taken his seat when some-
thing went wrong with the train. A broken rail had been the
means of ditching the engine and had thrown most of the cars off
the track. In the sleeper we were shaken up pretty badly, but
our car remained on the track.
The President immediately said to me that he had gone on
the platform when he heard a voice saying, "Go in and sit down."
He came in, and I noticed him stand a moment, and he
seemed to hesitate, but he sat down.
He said further that as he came in and stood in the aisle lie
thought, "Oh, pshaw, perhaps it is only my imagination;" when
he heard the voice again, "Sit down," and he immediately took
his seat, and the result was as I have stated.
He, no doubt, would have been very seriously injured had he
remained on the platform of that car, as the cars were all jammed
up together pretty badly. He said, "I have heard that voice a
good many times in my life, and I have always profited by obey-
ing it."
On another occasion, at a function which was held in the
palatial home of Mr. and Mrs. A. W. McCune, he made an ex-
tended talk to the gathering. He then said that when a certain
brother who had been called to a responsible position in the
Church was chosen for that position, he himself had never heard
this spiritual voice more plainly and more clearly telling him
what to do, than in this naming of the individual who was to be
called for that certain office.
He lived in close communion with the Spirit of the Lord,
and his life was so exemplary and chaste that the Lord could
easily manifest himself to his servant. Truly he could say
"Speak Lord, for thy servant heareth." Not every servant can
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hear when He speaks. But the heart of President Smith was
attuned to the Celestial melodies — he could hear, and did hear.
What shall I say of the grand and glorious work that he has
done in rearing the large and splendid family that he leaves be-
hind. What a noble work for any man! Indeed no man with-
out great nobility of soul could have accomplished it. Is not this
bringing up a good family, and a large family of good citizens,
good men and women, good for the Church, for the State, and
for the Nation ? Is not this, I say, about the most God-like piece
of work that a man can do in this world? The thinking mind,
who goes into this question deep enough, will see that here is
the work, not only of a man, of a great man, but of a God in
embryo. The whole Church can take pride in the vindication
of the great principle which he has so successfully wrought out.
No ordinary man could accomplish that. Happy the wife who
can call him husband. Happy and blessed indeed the children
who call him father. Never was man more moral and chaste
and virtuous to the last fiber of his being than he. Against all
forms or thoughts of licentiousness, he was set, and as immovable
as a mountain. "Blessed are the pure in heart," and as he was
of the very purest — he shall see God.
It is written that a truly great man is known by the number
of beings he loves and blesses, and by the number of beings who
love and bless him. Judged by that standard alone, where is
his equal to be found in all this world!
I can say of Joseph F. Smith as Carry le said of Luther, that
he was truly a great man, "great in intellect, in courage, in affec-
tion, and in integrity. Great, not as a hewn obelisk, but as an
Alpine mountain." No heart ever beat truer to every principle of
manhood and righteousness and justice and mercy than his; that
great heart, encased in his magnificent frame, made him the
biggest, the bravest, the tenderest, the purest and best of all men
who walked the earth in his time !
"His life was gentle, and the elements
So mix'd in him, that Nature might stand up
And say to all the world, 'This was a Man!'"