--- title: Times and Seasons description: Issues of 1844 to 1845. authors: - Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints editors: - Ebenezer Robinson - Don Carlos Smith - Smith, Joseph, Jr. - Taylor, John collections: - periodicals tags: - newspaper - times-and-seasons - nauvoo - nineteenth-century periodical: Times and Seasons volume: 5 number: 21 published: 1844-11-15 publisher: E. Robinson and D. C. Smith; later John Taylor publisher_place: Commerce and Nauvoo, Illinois language: en type: article reference: "“Ancient Writing,” *Times and Seasons* 5, no. 21 (November 15, 1844): 711." printed_title: ANCIENT WRITING. source: url: https://archive.org/details/per_utah-and-the-mormons_times-and-seasons_1844-11-15_5_21 transcription: Text from the Centerplace.org transcription (https://www.centerplace.org/history/ts/v5n21.htm), with its page breaks; this Internet Archive scan is the reference copy (its OCR was used only as a witness for OCR repair) identifier: per_utah-and-the-mormons_times-and-seasons_1844-11-15_5_21 start_page: 711 end_page: 711 curator_note: A Mormon newspaper published by the church in Nauvoo; included for historical study. Inclusion does not imply endorsement. rights: status: public-domain basis: US publication 1844 (Nauvoo, Illinois); published before 1931, so public domain in the United States source: https://archive.org/details/per_utah-and-the-mormons_times-and-seasons_1844-11-15_5_21 publication_year: 1844 --- # Ancient Writing It gratifies the curious, to see curious things and so we for once take a moment's time to lay before our readers a specimen of ancient writing about two hundred years old. Having no arbitrary characters to correspond with the manuscript, we have to imitate with letters as near as we can. Soon after printing commenced in English y with a small t over it meant "that" w and c after it meant "which," and so of many other words. Him, with a colon after it meant "Himself" teach: teaching, &c. There are 74 octavo pages in the manuscript finely written. It was a sermon of the Reverend Thomas Kimberly, and bears date, "March 2, 1636, at Honely in Ware," Conn. A treatise of the teaching of the Spirit. An Assay to remove a bar that stops zealous men from embring [embracing?] the everlasting covenant with full assurance of their interest & perseuerance [perseverance?] in grace to the possession of glory: & occasions differed am. brethren, we I conceive to be That they see not their need of God who is the fountain of life, & in whose light we see light. Psal: 36.9. 1. Some zealous ones see not the need they stand in of the freenes of the fathers loueas that wtout wc they cannot be saved. Eph: 2. 4, 7. & whereas we stand in such need of grace, that if he does not freely extend his fauour to us wont xrsp: of any worth in us either for or repent: se morall obed: we cannot be justified in his sight. Rom 3.20. Psal: 139.12. If a man rend his heart, poure out tears, se abstinence, make neuer so many prayers, ty up hims: to hearing, redding, mediation, be at co,t for minist: & ordin: & giueth much to ye poore, if a man attaine to sorrow mouings .f desires, affect, of love & peace, courage of resolutions, plenty of gifts &c. yet all this is of no worth to make a man right: before God, So that unless he doe reely for his owne name sake set his loue on man, he is jhil dee death & condemnation: but this they see not & go they doe justife them: in their owne right & submit not to conut all losse. & by donne as lost ones, and wait for life in god's right: freely by grace extended to them. Rom: 10. 2, 3.