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number: 6
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# Rev. Spalding's Answer to Dr. Widtsoe

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Rev. Spalding's Answer to Dr. Widtsoe

My Dear Doctor Widtsoe-.-                     •
                                                                             have included a careful summary of
            I     pardon mv delay in
                trust you will                                               the evidence, a thorough analysis of
replying to your letter of January 11,                                       the opinions of the scholars quoted and
1P33.  In that letter you wisely ad-                                         an extended series of "minute comparivised against undue haste, suggesting,                                       sons and bibliographic researches." In
you will remember, that I should have                                        the second place you insist that the
postponed                     the    publication           of   the          testimony of eight scholarly witnesses
pamphlet— ye u have been so kind as to                                       is altogether insufficient, and that a
discuss— even a "year or two."    You                                        man         of   scientific   spirit   would   have
will therefore, I am sure, overlook                                 a        consulted perhaps eighty competent exdelay of. not years, but weeks.                                              perts.
  If I understand your letter, and I                                           In reply to the first of these critihave read it carefully, you criticize the                                    cisms, T can only urge that you are
pamphlet "Joseph Smith         Jr.  as a                                     asking values of the writer of the
Translator" as being unscientific, and                                       pamphlet that he does not profess to
you base this opinion upon two con-                                          be able to give.  You are judging the
siderations which you urge with can-                                         pemphlet by a standard which it nodor and with spirit.    You feel, in the                                     where claims for itself. You and othfirst place that if the pamphlet is to                                       ers who have discussed the opinions of
be given scientific standing,                         it    should           the scholars quoted, are quite as com-

                 From       the Deseret News, March,                    7,   1913.

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"JOSEPH SMITH, JR., AS A TRANSLATOR'                                   611

netent to grasp their meaning, and es-      Joseph F. Smith is a "seer, a revelatimate their importance as I am. Had        tor, a translator and a prophet, hav-
I attempted to harmonize the apparent
                                            ing all the gifts of God which he bediscrepancies or to explain the mytho-      stows upon the head of the Church."
logical references, I should have been      (Doc. and Cov. Sec. 107:
assuming a degree of xearning on my                                        94;   and Tal-
                                            mage "The Articles of the Faith," page
own part, and of ignorance on the part      213).
of the thoughtful men the pamphlet was        The test which the pamphlet "Joseph
intended for which would have been          Smith, Jr., as a Translator" proposes
quite unjustifiable.                        has become not only a test of the com-
  I  am at a loss to understand the         petency of the First Presidency of the
statement of President Joseph F. Smith      Church, but also of the reliability of
in the February number of "The Im-          the present head of tne churcn. I am
provement Era" that the pamphlet has        sure you will appreciate as I do, the
been "circulated especially among the       great seriousness of the subject. Presistudents of the Latter-day Saints High      dent Smith frankly stakes his        own
School."   I have only given copies to      standing as "seer, revelator, translapersonal friends, to the authorities of     tor and prophet," in a word as compeyour church, to teachers of the state       tent head of the church upon the deand to those who asked for copies in —      cision of reliable scholars as to the ac-
                                            curacy of the translation we are cona word, to those whom I thought would
be interested in the opinions of the        sidering.
scholars cited, and whose intelligence        I therefore sent to Dr. Mercer of Chi-
I did not care to question by giving        cago and Dr. Barton of Bryn Mawr
explanations they were quite as capable     copies of Mr. Roberts' discussion as
of making as I was myself.                  printed in the Salt Lake Tribune of
  The pamphlet makes no pretension of       Dec. 15, 1912, and the editorial in The
being a scientific treatise, as you de-     Deseret News of Dec. "17, 1912.       Dr.
fine that term and I respectfully sub-      Mercer's reply, which was read and
              ;

mit that it is not fair to criticize it     amended by Dr. Breasted is as follow?               -

                                                                                                ,

for not belonging to a class it does                         6th January, 1913,
not pretend to belong to.      It seemed                           2735 Park Ave.
necessary to explain my object in se-                                    Chicago,       111.

curing the judgment of scholars as to       Rt. Rev.    and Dear Bishop.
the accuracy of the translations of the       Dr.  Breasted was out of town till
Egyptian texts printed in "The Peari        last Saturday — hence the delay.
of Great Price" as part of "The Book          Enclosed you will find my notes on
Of Abraham," to give a brief account        the article which you sent me. I subcf the originals and their translations,
                                            mitted the notes to Dr. Breasted and
                                            he made the pencil notes which you
to copy in    full the letters from the
experts exactly as I secured them, and
                                            will see in the margin.       He agrees
in common honesty to state the con-
                                            thoroughly with what I have written
                                            and thinks there is nothing further to
clusions to which I myself had been
led.
                                            add.   He seems very much interested
                                            in the matter.   I saw him on Saturday
 When Mr. Roberts and yourself had          evening, and he says there is absolutely
called attention to the .differences in     no doubt about the conclusions of the
the opinions printed in the pamphlet,       scholars, but thinks it almost useless
it did become my  duty to try to obtain     to reply. That opinion I share in genan analysis of those opinions by some       eral. But in this particular case I think
competent person.                           you are right in following up what
  I    am sure you must feel that the       you have already done: and I shall
whole discussion has increased great-       be glad to help you as far as my time
ly 'in importance since President Joseph    will permit — and I know Breasted will
F. Smith has done us the honor of           be always ready to answer questions.
taking part in it. In the "Improve-           Notes on B. H. Roberts' article: "Rement Era" for February he wrote as          marks   on 'Joseph     Smith,        Jr.,   as     a
follows:   "Not only do we testify that     Translator'— a Plea    in    Bar of Final
Joseph Smith was inspired when he           Conclusions."The      Salt   Lake Tribune,
gave to the world the Pearl of Great        Sunday morning, Dec. 15, 1912.
Price, but we declare that it was by         1. To quote Mr. Roberts: "All                     of
the inspiration and power of God that       the jury, save one, insist that the athe translated the Book of Mormon, or-       tempt at reproduction has been badly
ganized the Church of Christ, and           executed," and to add that one's opin-
2"ave mankind the precious revelations      ion though not expressed on this parcontained in the Doctrine and Cove-         ticular point, coincides with the opinnants and it is our firm belief that sci-   ion of the rest of the jury, and shows
entific investigation and discovery will    that there is, therefore, on this point
confirm our testimony rather        than    decided unanimity.
weaken or repudiate it." As succes-           2.  In answer to Mr. Roberts's quessor of Joseph Smith,      Jr., President    tion, "If all this be true of the alleged

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612                            IMPROVEMENT ERA
facsimiles, how may the learned gen-         the hawk of Horus. Further, as any
tlenian pronounce judgment upon      mem     dead Egyptian was referred to as an
with b ich certainty?" it may be Baid        Osiris so his soul was referred to as an
that nol one of the jury pretended to        Tsis.  There is therefore, here, no distranslate   the poorly   copied hiero-       crepancy.    (Note by Breasted.     "One
glyphics, but interpreted the figures,,      man says fifty cents, another half a
which are found so often in the same         dollar.")
and similar groups and combinations
on Egyptian papyri and inscriptions          Fig. 2.   Dead Person —Petrie.
with explanations in the hieroglyphic,                 Body of the Dead — Meyer.
that their true meaning is quite ob-                   Dead Man —V. Bissing.
vious and constant. In addition, it is                 Osiris rising from the deadquite obvious that the imperfection in                     Breasted.
the copying of figuies does not make                   (Osiris coming to life     —
                                                                           Deveria.)
their interpretation much more diffi-         .Again, to the expert there is here no
cult;  while   imperfect hieroglyphics       discrepancy. Every dead person is an
would give rise to r.iany difficulties in    Osiris.     Every dead person being an
translation.                                 Osiris necessarily, according to Egypt-
  3. The bad copying (though not "pur-       ian Theology,    rises  from the dead
posely altering" as Mr. Roberts would        There is no discrepancy in referring to
try to make his readers believe the          Fig. 2 both as the dead person and as
                           —
scholars to have said but the schol-         Osiris rising from the dead or coming
ars were careful not to use such a           to life, since as soon as embalming
phrase since they hold the bad copy-         takes     place   the     dead,   being       Osiris,
ing to be due to ignorance) cannot be        rises.
taken to indicate a document of a dif-       •Figure 3     Anubis                 Petrie
ferent period in the development of
                                                            Embalmer              Peters
Egyptian writing.     We
                       have many doc-                       Officiating Priest Breasted
uments from alf Egyptian periods, from                      A priest              Meyer
earlier than 3,000 B. C. down, and they                                           V.       Bissing
                                                            Priest
can all be read with comparative ease.                 (God of Anubis Deveria)
  4. Because the prophet described the
original   documents as "Beautifully           [ Anubis is usually represented with
written" there is in that no proof (as                                     —
                                             the hef>d of a jackal Cf. Devc'a's
Mr. Roberts would have his readers           remark.]                                  §    HIT   \]

believe) that Smith, or anyone else ig-         Since Anubis is the God of embalmnorant of the Egyptian script, was able      ing and conductor of the souls of th>5
to or did copy them correctly.      No       dead, the priestly embalmer, fig. S, is
scholar claims that Smith "purposely         therefore, often represented under the
altered" the hieroglyphics, but they do      form of the God Anubis. Deveria is not
believe that the script was ignorantly       wrong in saying that the God of Ancopied.                                      ubis* [*That is, God Anubis.] (the
  5. Alleged "disagreements among the        embalmer under that form) effects
jury of savants." 1. As to plate No. 2,      the resurrection    of the dead    Osiris.
Roberts can find no disagreements. 2.        (Note by Dr. Breasted "The officiating
We shall find (contrary to Roberts)          Priest wears the head of a wolf or
that anyone knowing the least about          jackal to impersonate Anubis"). (Often-
Egyptian religion and mythology can          er Jackal) Mertfer.
see that there is complete unanimity in         As far as the scholars thought it
the interpretation of plate No. 1.           necessary to interpret the other figures
  Here is, in tabular form, the schol-       of plate No. 1, their interpretations are
ars' interpretation of Plate No. 1:          correct and give no cause for misunr'^r-
Fig. 1    Hawk of Horus —Petrie.             f tanding.

          A bird representing Isis— Breas-     There is also no misunderstanding
               ted.                          about plate No. 3, as Mr. Roberts ad-
       The Soul (Kos)— Peters.               mits.   A writer, however, in the Des-
       The Soul — Meyer.                     ert Evening News of Tuesday, Dec. 17,
       The Soul—V. Bissing.                  1912. finds some difficulties. The cause
  The layman would naturally see here        as in the case of Mr. Roberts, is to be
a discrepancy.  Peters, Meyer and V.         found in the fact that the writer is a
Bissing call the bird "the Soul" (with       layman in things Egyptian. He conthem agrees M. Deveria who calls it the      fuses the interpretation of figures with
soul of Osiris under the form of a           the translations of hieroglyphics; while
hawk ) [ The hawk often has a hu-
           ;
                                             the translation of ignorantly copied
man head, as Deveria holds it ought to       hieroglyphics is a precarious proceedhave here.] Petrie calls it the hawk of      ing,  the interpretation of Egyptian
Horus; and Breasted a bird represent-        fig 'res is   a comparatively simple mating Isis.The expert sees no discrepancy.  It was a regular custom for the         Fis ure 1     Osiris        Sayce
Egyptian artist to represent The Soul                      Osiris        Petrie
under the forms of the Horus bird or                       Osiris        Breasted

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                     "JOSEPH SMITH, JR., AS A TRANSLATOR'                                    613

Figure   2   Isis                  Sayce            transliteration of a foreign word is a
             Isis                  Petrie           subjective matter, to a certain extent,
             Probably       Isis   Breasted         yet there are some general rules fol-
Figure   3   Offering        Petrie                 lowed by all scholars.       No modern
             Not referred to by the other           scholar   would    transliterate    Resh,
             scholars.                              koph, yod, ain, or yod, he, vav, he, as
             All would, however,            agree   Smith does, nor can my critic find in
             with Petrie.                           any scientific Hebrew grammar of the
Figure   4   Maat                   Sayce           period of Joseph Smith any translit-
             Nebhat or Maat         Petrie          eration like Smith's. This would show,
           Goddess of Truth Breasted                as I stated, that Smith's translitera-
  Any dilettante in Egyptian knows                  tion "Is far from accurate." Moreover
that Maat [ Breasted does not trans-                yod, he, vav, he, is NOT an Egyptian
literate the name of the Goddess as                 word as Smith asserts and        believed.
Ma't, as the writer would have his                  Further. Dr. Peters who well knows
readers understand.] is the Goddess of              Egyptian and Babylonian history, does
Truth.   Petrie is naturally uncertain              not deny political relationship        beas to whether the figure is that of                 tween the Egyptians and Babylonians.
Nebhat     (otherwise   translated   Ne-            He. however, truly states that "The inphthys) or Maat, because of the im-                 terpretation" of the plates     "displays
perfect drawing. Nephthys (Nebhat)                  an amusing ignorance," in which, in
the sister Goddess to Isis might well be            the mind of Smith, the "Chaldeans and
expected here, as in many other sim-                Egyptians are hopelessly    mixed toilar scenes.                                        gether."
Figure   5        Pharaoh          Fayce               It is complained that the scholars
             Dead person           Petrie           did not interpret all the figures of
             A Man                 Breasted         these facsimiles and comment upon all
  The writer's cavil about Sayce's use              of    Smith's                       —
                                                                     interpretations, -They
of the article with the; word Pharaon               probably felt as I did, that their time
is not to the point. .Sayce does not re-            was too valuable to spend on such
fer to any "well known Pharaoh." He                 scientific  work as that of Joseph
uses the word Pharaoh in a correct                  Smith's guesses. Smith's explanatory
     —
way as we would use the word king--                 notes "cannot be taken seriously by
                                                    any scholar."
as a title e. g. "The Pharaoh," "The
King," "The Emperor." The point is                              SAMUEL A. B. MERCER.
that some dead person, whether the
                                                       Here is Dr. Geo. A. Barton's reply
Pharaoh or any other man, is being                  PENNSYLVANIA SOCIETY OF THE
led, in the next world, before Osiris.               ARCHAEOLOGICAL INSTITUTE
     Figure 6     Anubis          Petrie                    OF AMERICA.
      Shadow (of the dead) V. Bissing.                       Bryn Mawr, Pa., Dec. 30, 1912.
  There may well arise the difference               George A. Barton, Secretary.
of opinion here as to whether this                    Right Rev. F. S. Spalding, D. D.,
figure is Anubis or the dead      man's                  Salt Lake, Utah.
shade, not only because of the poor-                  My dear Sir:  —
ness of the drawing, but   also because               AVith reference to the explanations
of the fact that both interpretations               of the plates from Joseph Smith's Book
are exemplified in many similar Egyp-               of Abraham given by eminent Egypttian scenes. The point about the white              ologists as quoted in your recent pamapron is again a cavil. The Egyptian                     JOSEPH SMITH JR. AS A
                                                    phlet,
artist was no more logical in his rep-              TRANSLATOR, and the remarks made
resentations of the departed than are               thereupon    bv B.   H.   Roberts   in   the
modern artists. The apron, however,                 SALT LAKE TRIBUNE of Dec. 15th,
would lead one to believe that Petrie's             and editorially by the DESERET EVEinterpretation is the more correct here.            NING NEWS of Dec. 17th, I beg to
   In reference again 1o the article in             make a few observations.
The Deseret Evening News of Tues-                     Permit me first to sav that, while I
day, December 17th, 1&12, it may be                 have a smattering of Egyptology, I
said that the writer in his section en-             am   not an Egyptologist, but an Astitled "A Question of Words" ignores
                                                    syriologiitt and Hebraist.     For ten
the fact that scholars can easily de-
                                                    years I have, however, taught Egyptermine whether a word is Egyptian or
                                                    tian history, and am    fairly familiar
not. Such a linguist as Sayce can be
                                                    with the best results of Egyptological
depended upon when he says that
"Kolob"      not Egyptian. Neither is
             is
                                                    research.   With reference to the claim
                                                    of Mr. Roberts that the opinions of the
the word Semitic in the sense in which
Smith used it. The writer's criticism               scholars which vou quote are invalidof my own remarks completely misses                 ated by their disagreement?, the folthe point. I pointed out that while Jo-             lowing fact.3 should be noted:  —
seph Smith, or his assistant, knew                    1. In Egyptian lore, Osirif? died anc*
SOME Hebrew, he gave evidence of                    was raised to life again.     He becamabsolutely no knowledge of Egyptian.                in  time, accordingly, the representa-
I am quite aware of the fact that the               tive of a life into which every dead

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man hoped           to   enter.        Isis   imparted   truth so as      not    to   wound Mormon
her    life  the dead Osiris; the soul
              to                                         sensibilities) Joseph Smith Jr. is
had given life to the body.       These                  shown by these examples of translapictures were differently interpreted at                 tion to belong to the same class of
Unas by the      Egyptians themselves,                   faker as Dr. Cook.
and the supposed disagreements of the                       You are at liberty to make any use
Egyptologists consist of the Cact that                   of this which you please.
some have given the original interpre-                            Very sincerely yours,
tation of the symbolism, and some, the                                   GEO. A. BARTON.
later Egyptian interpretation     In re-                   In acknowledging the pamphlet, I reality these disagreements are simply                     ceived the following interesting letter
marks that the scholars wrote without                    from Dr. John P. Peters of New York:
collusion.              is no disagreement
                    There                                My Dear Bishop Spalding:
in    fact.        WhenMr. Roberts appeals                 I received your pamphlet promptly on
to    this    disagreement, he reveals the               the tablets in "the Pearl of Great
absolute weakness           of hii case.                 Price" and read it with much interest.
  2.  He asks            why,     if   scholars    can   I also, at the last meeting of the Oriread Egyptian    so well, did they not                   ental Club, showed the pamphlet and
translate some of these plates?    The                   told why it was written and its origifact is, the plates are so badly copied                  nal contents.   The Orientalists were
that they are untranslatable. One can                    very much interested.    One of those
see that it was Egyptian characters                      present told me that some young Morthat Joseph Smith was trying to imi-                     mons in the University of Chicago had
tate, but the characters as they stand                   privately applied   to  Breasted, the
do not faithfully represent any known                    Egyptologist, to ask him to write fully
writing.             some one should
               Suppose                                   on this same subject. They wanted to
send Mr. Roberts     some English, in                    hear and have published to the world
which the letters were so mingled                        what an Egyptologist would say, but
that only now and then they made an
                                                         they did not wish to have their names
English word, and half the letters
were so mutilated that they were not                     appear    in any way.  Some odd little
letters at all, would it be fair to con-
                                                         facts   came out in the discussion, one
clude that he could not read English                     which you may like to know:
because he did not produce a render-                       On page 20, in the explanation of
ing of it? Any one of the Egyptolo-                      Plate No. 1, No. 12 commences "Raugists quoted will, I doubt not, be glad                  keeyang, signifying expanse, or the
to furnish Mr. Roberts a translation                     firmament over our heads; but in this
of the text which ordinarily appears                     case,   in   relation   to   this    subject,    the
upon these texts, and he can then                        Egyptians meant to signify Shaumau,
compare it with Joseph Smith's ren-                      to be high, or the heavens, answering
dering at leisure.                                       to the Hebrew word Shaumahyeem."
   3. Had this been a genuine book of                    Raukeeyang is evidently a corrupt pro-
Abraham, it would not have been                          nunciation of the letters Resh Koph
written in Egyptian characters at all,                   Yod and Ain in the sixth verse of the
but in Babylonian cuneiform.       That                  first chapter of Genesis; but the spellwas the language and script of Abra-                     ing shows that it was taken from the
ham's native land, and was the meth-                     pronunciation of a Sephardim Jew.
od of writing used in Palestine even                     Most Jews whom we have in this counby Egyptian governors.                                   try today are Askenazim, who pro-
   4.  It is a grotesque idea that, if
                                                         nounce quite differently, (the older
Abraham had originated the disc                          Jewish immigration which was small,
which was placed under the heads of                      was Sephardim). Christian teachers
the dead in later times, the Egyptians
                                                         have, as a rule, learned their Hebrew
would have used it so widely. Abraham was no saint to them. They de-                       from other Christian teachers, going
spised the Asiatics.                                     back to the period of the Reformation,
   5.  The suggestion that the cause                     and they have a more                and
                                                                                             scientific
of Mormonism is safe, because this                       accurate                   than either
                                                                        pronunciation
sort of art appeared in Egypt only 500                   Sephardim or Askenazim. Smith did
or 10 00 years after the time of Abra-                   not get his "Raukeeyang" from a
ham, is also amusing. How does it                        Christian teacher, or a minister taught
happen, if Abraham was the originat-                     by a Christian teacher, but from a Jew.
or of this, that the figures in his book                 Incidentally it appears to be evidence
do not wear the style of dress of his                    that he was, in his way, at that time
age, but    that of several centuries                    studyinar these old languages.
later?   Did he set the fashion to the                     Von Rissing's suggestion, contained
Egyptians in dress as well as in re-                     on the last page of the pamphlet, that
ligion? Abraham as a modeste would                       Smith probably "used Athenasius Kirsurely be the Father of the Faithful                     sher the Jesuit's work" on Egyptian,
in    a new role!                                        approved itself to those present. In-
  The fact is, (I wish there were                        deed it was suggested by them before I
some way of stating the unwelcome                        had come to that passage. Kirsher's

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"JOSEPH SMITH, JR., AS A TRANSLATOR'                                         615

work was not a whit more foolish or                    speak as a linguist when I say that
                                                        I
improbable than Smith's work. It was               if Smith knew Egyptian and correctly
precisely because it was     of such a             interpreted the facsimiles which you
character that, for a good while, the              submitted to me, then I don't know
interpretation of Egyptian hieroglyph-             a 'word of Egyptian,      and Erman's
ics was discredited.   His book had a              Grammar is a fake, and all modern
wide circulation. It appealed immense-             Egyptologists are deceived.
ly to half educated and uneducated                   In the case of Smith, we have a conpeople and repelled the better educated.           crete example of one of two things—
The suggestion from that is that Smith             either of his deceit, or of his self-decepjust as honestly as Kirsher, believed              tion.   Scholars have proved        concluthat he had found a clue and was a                 sively that he could not do what he
real discipherer; that, in other words,            ?laimed to have done. I do not queshe was not a pure fraud, but an ignor-             tion the Mormon system, nor the type
ant, vain, self-deluded man, who imag-             of character produced by Mormonism,
ined he knew what he did not know.                 any more than I do Christianity or the
                  Tours faithfully,                Christian character. The point in dis-
                  JOHN P. PETERS.                  cussion is the sincerity of the founder
    And may I also discuss more briefly            of Mormonism.      If scholars and scienyour assertion that the opposing evi-              tific-men could prove the deception or
dence of eight scholars does not in-               self-deception of Christ as clearly and
validate the accuracy of the only trans-           conclusively as they can that of Joseph
lations of Joseph Smith Jr. which can              Smith. I should willingly accept then
be tested by modern scholarship.      I            decision.
sent to Dr. Mercer of Chicago a copy                    I   am yours most sincerely and obeof the Deseret Evening News of Jan.                diently,
11,  1913, containing your letter.- His                          SAMUEL A. B. MERCER."
romment is as follows:                                  must frankly say that to my ad-
                                                        I
Rt. Rev. and Dear Bishop.                          mittedly unscientific mind the judg-
   I have read Dr. Widtsoe's letter in             ment of eight witnesses seems suf-
The Deseret Evening News. Jan. 11,                 ficient to establish the meaning of the
and while I have respect for any Hai               Egyptian      text.   If I   were   in   doubt as
vard man (I am also one), yot his let-             to themeaning of some language unter, like all others on the subject, is            known to me and eight linguists of
not convincing to any Egyptologist.                international reputation agreed       sub-
   He asks why only eight Egyptologists            stantially as to its translation, I should
were  approached.    If he knew any-               certainly feel that I had tne meaning
thing about linguistic work of the na-             of the text. If I found a plant whlcn
ture of hyeroglyhics he would, not ask             I  could not classify, or a mineral I
such a question, for any ancient lin-              coulc not name, and eight scientists in
guist   knows that the unanimous testi-            eight universities independently agreeo.
mony of eight scholars is the same as              as to the plant and mineral, I should
that of eighty and eight. This is es-              feel that I need inquire no further.
pecially true, as I have already shown,
that to an Egyptologist there was ab-
                                                     No doubt you have noticed that the
solutely no discrepancy in the replies
                                                   number of experts has been increased
                                                   to eleven.   M. Deveria, whom I had
of the scholars.
                                                   hesitated to quote because he was de-
  Dr. Widtsoe questions your method
                                                   scribed as a"young savant," has been
of presenting the case to scholars. A»
                                                   accepted by the editorial writer of the
I    understood   it.   you merely wished to       "Deseret Evening News" and his opinknow from Egyptologists whether,              in
                                                   ion which Dr. Mercer shows above to
their judgment (after comparing their
own knowledge of Egyptian with                     be in substantial agreement with that
                                                   of the other experts printed in full in
Joseph Smith's as revealed by his in-
                                                   the issue of January 4, 1913. The conterpretation of the facsimiles), Smith
                                                   firmatory judgment of Dr. E. A. W.
knew enough of the Egyptian language               Budge of the British Museum was most
to    translate   texts.    All   the   scholars
                                                   kindly contributed to the News of Decame to the same conclusion, viz.: that
Smith could not possibly       correctly           cember 19,1912 by Mr. Junius F. Wells.
translate any Egyptian text, as his                In your letter you express regret that
interpretation of the facsimiles shows.            Dr. Lythgoe's opinion was not given,
Any pupil of mine who would show                   but vou must have noted with satis-
                                                   faction that "The New York Times"
such absolute ignorance of Egyptian
as Smith does, could not possibly ex-              of December 29th 1912, published a
pect to get more than zero in an ex-
                                                   statement of Dr. Lythgoe's general
amination in Egyptology.                           agreement with the otner scholars.
  The science of Egyptology is well                This Bgvntologist's views were discuss-
                                                   ed by Robert C. Webb, Ph. D., in the
established as any one knows who is                                         .News           January
                                                    Deseret      Evening               of
acquainted with the great Grammar
                                                   19th, 1913.
of Erman, a 3rd Ed. of which appeared
in 1911.                                                The number of opinions before us is

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therefore not eight, but eleven, and             shall review the history of the growth
the question upon which we seem to               of science, and shall judge men by
differ is as to the value of the practi-         the record that they have left behind
cal agreement of eleven admittedly               them, he will place Joseph Smith as
competent Orientalists.                          the greatest philosopher of science of
       am to convince you that there
     If I                                        the nineteenth century, and possibly of
is conclusive value in the testimony             the twentieth."
adduced, my argument must be AD                     May I remind you that the man
HOMINEM, a method of             argument        whom you thus describe, when he
not always legitimate, and yet in the            wished to give the world testimony
use of which you have yourself set me            to the importance and accuracy of a
an example. In 1908 you published a              literary production, did    not secure
bonk entitled    "Joseph    Smith   as           eighty witnesses, but eleven! You will
          The
Scientist."       book expresses not             remember that Joseph         Smith Jr.,
only your own    deliberate  judgment,           whom you describe as the greatest
hut that of the committee "appointed             scientific philosopher of modern times,
by  the First Presidency   to read the           relied on eleven witnesses to the Book
manuscript." In this important volume,           of       Mormon.
on page 161, you write as follows:     —                    Yours Faithfully
   "When the historian of future days                                    F.   S.   SPALDING.
