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# Talks to Young Men. III—Doing Things Indifferently

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TALKS 
        TO 
        YOUNG 
        MEN.
111.—
        DOING 
        THINGS 
        INDIFFERENTLY.
I 
        have 
        known 
        young 
        men 
        to 
        so 
        far 
        forget 
        their 
        duty 
        as
to 
        always 
        do 
        things 
        in 
        a 
        very 
        indifferent, 
        thoughtless 
        manner.
How 
        young 
        people 
        should 
        learn 
        to 
        despise 
        carelessnes, 
        slovenliness,
indifference! 
        "Let 
        it 
        slide," 
        "let 
        it 
        go 
        at 
        that," 
        "good 
        enough,"
are 
        extremely 
        poor 
        rules 
        to 
        adopt. 
        The 
        old 
        adage, 
        "Whatever
is 
        worth 
        doing 
        at 
        all, 
        is 
        worth 
        doing 
        well," 
        is 
        a 
        splendid 
        mark 
        to
work 
        to. 
        Get 
        ready; 
        do 
        not 
        act 
        until 
        you 
        are 
        ready, 
        then 
        do
with 
        all 
        your 
        might. 
        That 
        is 
        the 
        motto 
        for 
        a 
        young 
        man 
        who 
        is
to 
        prove 
        a 
        success
        —
        who 
        is 
        to 
        make 
        a 
        character, 
        a 
        mark, 
        in 
        life.
Indifference 
        on 
        the 
        part 
        of 
        boys 
        on 
        the 
        farm, 
        in 
        the 
        shop, 
        in
the 
        canyon, 
        at 
        the 
        mills, 
        in 
        all 
        employments, 
        is 
        much 
        too 
        common,
and 
        is 
        the 
        bane 
        of 
        parents 
        and 
        employers. 
        But 
        it 
        is 
        not 
        alone
there, 
        it 
        enters 
        our 
        homes, 
        and 
        even 
        our 
        religious 
        worship. 
        This
reminds 
        me 
        of 
        a 
        letter 
        I 
        received 
        some 
        weeks 
        ago 
        on 
        the 
        indiffer-
ence of 
        young 
        men 
        who 
        are 
        home 
        missionaries, 
        and 
        as 
        they 
        are 
        in
the 
        minority, 
        let 
        us 
        "go 
        after" 
        them, 
        and 
        apply 
        the 
        moral 
        to 
        our
own 
        vocation.    
        Here 
        is 
        the 
        letter:
One 
        Sunday 
        afternoon, 
        some 
        months 
        ago, 
        I 
        visited 
        a 
        friend
who 
        resides 
        in
        ward.    
        As 
        the 
        hour 
        for 
        worship 
        drew 
        near, 
        I
volunteered 
        to 
        accompany 
        him 
        to 
        meeting, 
        in 
        order 
        that 
        our 
        souls
might 
        be 
        refreshed 
        and 
        fed 
        with 
        that 
        spiritual 
        manna 
        which 
        we 
        so
much 
        need 
        to 
        sustain 
        us 
        while 
        traveling 
        through 
        this 
        "vale 
        of
tears."
The 
        choir 
        and 
        congregation 
        united 
        in 
        a 
        song 
        of 
        praise; 
        an
aged 
        father 
        in 
        Israel   
        offered 
        up 
        a 
        prayer 
        of 
        thanksgiving 
        to 
        the

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TALKS 
        TO  
        YOUNG 
        MEN. 
        209
Most 
        High 
        for 
        his 
        manifold 
        mercies 
        and 
        favors; 
        and 
        while 
        in 
        sol-
emn tones 
        the 
        sweet 
        singers 
        again 
        praised 
        the 
        Father 
        for
" 
        *     
        *     
        *     
        the 
        wisdom 
        and 
        the 
        love
That 
        filled 
        the 
        courts 
        on 
        high,
And 
        sent 
        the 
        Savior 
        from 
        above,
To 
        suffer, 
        bleed 
        and 
        die,"
the 
        holy 
        emblems 
        of 
        the 
        body 
        and 
        blood 
        of 
        Christ 
        were 
        passed
around.
Two 
        elders 
        (it 
        would 
        be 
        improper 
        to 
        mention 
        names) 
        were
then 
        announced 
        as 
        the 
        speakers 
        of 
        the 
        evening. 
        They 
        were 
        home
missionaries. 
        One 
        of 
        them 
        stood 
        before 
        the 
        congregation, 
        and
these 
        are 
        something 
        like 
        the 
        words 
        he 
        said: 
        "My 
        brethren 
        and
sisters, 
        I 
        feel 
        my 
        weakness 
        in 
        standing 
        before 
        you 
        this 
        evening. 
        I
would 
        much 
        rather 
        speak 
        to 
        the 
        people 
        of 
        the 
        world 
        than 
        to 
        a 
        con-
gregation of 
        Latter-day 
        Saints. 
        I 
        find 
        my 
        mind 
        a 
        complete 
        blank;
I 
        know 
        of 
        nothing 
        that 
        I 
        can 
        say 
        to 
        you."
I 
        turned 
        to 
        my 
        friend 
        and 
        asked, 
        "What 
        did 
        he 
        say?"
"That 
        he 
        has 
        nothing 
        to 
        say," 
        he 
        replied.
"Then 
        why 
        doesn't 
        he 
        sit 
        down?"
"He 
        will, 
        presently," 
        replied 
        my 
        friend, 
        "but 
        he 
        wants 
        first 
        to
demonstrate 
        the 
        truth 
        of 
        his 
        statement."
For 
        full 
        twenty 
        minutes, 
        I 
        sat 
        and 
        listened 
        to 
        one 
        of 
        the 
        most
uninteresting, 
        spiritless, 
        disjointed 
        discourses 
        that 
        I 
        have 
        ever
heard 
        from 
        the 
        lips 
        of 
        an 
        elder. 
        When 
        he 
        resumed 
        his 
        seat, 
        I 
        re-
marked to 
        my 
        friend, 
        "We 
        must 
        give 
        him 
        credit 
        for 
        having 
        at 
        least
told 
        the 
        truth
        —
        he 
        said 
        that 
        he 
        had 
        nothing 
        to 
        say; 
        he 
        talked 
        for
twenty 
        minutes 
        and 
        said 
        nothing."
It 
        was 
        my 
        intention, 
        when 
        the 
        missionary 
        arose, 
        to 
        petition
the 
        Lord 
        to 
        bless 
        and 
        inspire 
        him 
        with 
        his 
        Holy 
        Spirit; 
        but 
        when 
        I
heard 
        him 
        announce 
        that 
        he 
        had 
        nothing 
        to 
        say, 
        I 
        hesitated. 
        I
remembered 
        the 
        decree 
        of 
        the 
        Almighty 
        in 
        the 
        beginning, 
        that 
        in
the 
        sweat 
        of 
        his 
        face 
        man 
        would 
        eat 
        bread 
        all 
        the 
        days 
        of 
        his 
        life,
and 
        as 
        I 
        am 
        not 
        impertinent 
        enough 
        to 
        ask 
        the 
        Lord 
        to 
        fill 
        with
bread 
        the 
        mouth 
        of 
        the 
        man 
        who 
        spends 
        his 
        days 
        in 
        idleness,
neither 
        had 
        I 
        the 
        heart 
        to 
        ask 
        him 
        to 
        fill 
        with 
        words 
        of 
        life 
        and 
        in-
spiration the 
        mouth 
        of 
        the 
        mental 
        drone.    
        If 
        a 
        home 
        missionary

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210 
        IMPROVEMENT 
        ERA.
has 
        nothing 
        to 
        say 
        to 
        a 
        congregation, 
        then, 
        it 
        seems 
        to 
        me, 
        he
ought 
        to 
        abandon 
        the 
        ministry. 
        I 
        trust 
        that 
        no 
        one 
        will 
        construe
this 
        as 
        being 
        a 
        plea 
        for 
        prepared 
        discourses. 
        No 
        one 
        could 
        be
more 
        opposed 
        to 
        prepared 
        discourses 
        than 
        I 
        am. 
        We 
        are 
        taught
by 
        the 
        revelations 
        of 
        Jesus 
        Christ 
        that 
        these 
        meetings 
        should 
        be
conducted 
        by 
        the 
        Holy 
        Ghost, 
        that 
        men 
        should 
        speak 
        as 
        they 
        are
moved 
        upon 
        by 
        him, 
        and 
        that 
        unless 
        men 
        have 
        the 
        Spirit 
        they 
        are
not 
        to 
        teach; 
        but 
        I 
        have 
        not 
        yet 
        learned 
        how 
        a 
        missionary 
        who,
after 
        filling 
        one 
        appointment, 
        takes 
        no 
        thought 
        of 
        his 
        calling 
        until
the 
        hour 
        comes 
        for 
        him 
        to 
        fill 
        another, 
        can 
        expect 
        the 
        Lord 
        to 
        en-
dow him 
        with 
        the 
        Spirit 
        of 
        wisdom 
        and 
        instruction.
The 
        Latter-day 
        Saints, 
        as 
        a 
        people, 
        are 
        not 
        among 
        those 
        who
"make 
        men 
        offenders 
        for 
        a 
        word." 
        No 
        matter 
        how 
        simple 
        the
language; 
        or 
        how 
        ungrammatical 
        the 
        construction 
        of 
        the 
        sentences,
so 
        long 
        as 
        we 
        get 
        ideas. 
        One 
        man 
        said 
        recently, 
        "I 
        wish 
        I 
        could
find 
        language 
        with 
        which 
        to 
        clothe 
        my 
        ideas." 
        His 
        friend 
        replied,
"I 
        wish 
        I 
        could 
        get 
        ideas; 
        I 
        have 
        no 
        fear 
        but 
        I 
        would 
        find 
        language
with 
        which 
        to 
        clothe 
        them." 
        That's 
        the 
        point
        —
        give 
        us 
        ideas, 
        good,
sound 
        ideas. 
        We 
        do 
        not 
        care 
        how 
        the 
        nut 
        is 
        broken, 
        so 
        long 
        as 
        yre
get 
        the 
        kernel; 
        we 
        are 
        not 
        so 
        much 
        concerned 
        about 
        the 
        platter 
        on
which 
        the 
        meat 
        is 
        served, 
        as 
        about 
        the 
        flavor 
        in 
        the 
        meat. 
        Mis-
sionaries should 
        begin 
        to 
        realize 
        that 
        people 
        are 
        getting 
        tired 
        of
gnawing 
        at 
        bare 
        bones.
This 
        missionary 
        talked 
        for 
        twenty 
        minutes 
        and 
        said 
        nothing
of 
        interest 
        or 
        profit. 
        He 
        reminded 
        me 
        of 
        a 
        squirrel 
        confined 
        in 
        a
cage. 
        For 
        twenty 
        minutes 
        he 
        rode 
        on 
        the 
        cage 
        wheel, 
        and 
        landed
where 
        he 
        started, 
        without 
        having 
        covered 
        a 
        foot 
        of 
        ground. 
        He
only 
        benefited 
        himself
        —
        he 
        had 
        exercised 
        his 
        limbs, 
        and 
        the 
        only
one 
        benefited 
        by 
        the 
        discourse 
        referred 
        to 
        above 
        was 
        the 
        mission-
ary—
        he 
        had 
        exercised 
        his 
        lungs.
I 
        have 
        heard 
        another 
        missionary 
        address 
        the 
        Saints 
        a 
        number
of 
        times, 
        and 
        it 
        seems 
        to 
        be 
        that 
        man's 
        efforts 
        to 
        give 
        expression
to 
        a 
        few 
        tame, 
        lame, 
        spiritless 
        sentences. 
        His 
        discourses 
        are 
        as
barren 
        as 
        a 
        vestal 
        virgin, 
        and 
        it 
        is 
        a 
        wonder 
        to 
        me 
        that 
        the 
        man
hasn't 
        become 
        dissatisfied 
        with 
        himself 
        long 
        ago, 
        and 
        requested 
        a
release. 
        You 
        may 
        think 
        me 
        severe, 
        but 
        listen 
        to 
        the 
        whole 
        of 
        my
story. 
        I 
        have 
        known 
        this 
        same 
        man, 
        who 
        cannot 
        stand 
        before 
        the
Saints 
        ten 
        minutes 
        and 
        address 
        them 
        intelligently, 
        discuss 
        for 
        a

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TALKS 
        TO  
        YOUNG 
        MEN. 
        211
considerable 
        length 
        of 
        time 
        each 
        day, 
        for 
        several 
        weeks, 
        a 
        noto-
rious murder 
        case. 
        And 
        it 
        seemed 
        strange 
        to 
        me 
        how 
        a 
        man 
        who
could 
        talk 
        as 
        much 
        as 
        he 
        did 
        about 
        a 
        murder 
        could 
        not 
        talk 
        for
ten 
        minutes 
        on 
        some 
        of 
        the 
        principles 
        of 
        the 
        Gospel. 
        Perhaps 
        the
reason 
        why 
        he 
        could 
        talk 
        so 
        long 
        about 
        the 
        murder 
        was 
        that 
        every
morning 
        he 
        had 
        devoured 
        all 
        there 
        was 
        in 
        the 
        newspapers 
        about 
        it.
No 
        doubt 
        if 
        he 
        had 
        devoted 
        half 
        the 
        time 
        to 
        the 
        study 
        of 
        the 
        Gos-
pel that 
        he 
        had 
        given 
        to 
        the 
        murder, 
        he 
        would 
        have 
        been 
        able 
        to
talk 
        more 
        intelligently 
        about 
        the 
        Gospel. 
        I 
        heard 
        another 
        mis-
sionary in 
        private 
        describe 
        in 
        detail 
        a 
        twenty-round 
        prize 
        fight 
        that
came 
        off 
        in 
        the 
        East 
        a 
        number 
        of 
        years 
        ago. 
        And 
        yet, 
        this 
        same
man, 
        like 
        the 
        other, 
        cannot 
        address 
        a 
        congregation 
        of 
        Latter-day
Saints 
        with 
        any 
        degree 
        of 
        satisfaction
        —
        to 
        the 
        congregation. 
        Now
if 
        this 
        man 
        had 
        paid 
        as 
        much 
        attention 
        to 
        the 
        Gospel 
        as 
        he 
        seems
to 
        have 
        paid 
        to 
        prizefights, 
        there 
        would 
        be 
        a 
        different 
        story 
        to 
        tell.
There 
        is 
        a 
        man 
        I 
        know 
        who 
        can 
        "talk 
        politics" 
        from 
        morning
till 
        night, 
        and 
        yet 
        when 
        it 
        comes 
        to 
        talking 
        about 
        the 
        Gospel, 
        he
finds 
        himself 
        at 
        sea. 
        He 
        takes 
        two 
        daily 
        papers, 
        and 
        yet 
        he 
        told
me 
        he 
        could 
        not 
        afford 
        to 
        subscribe 
        for 
        one 
        of 
        the 
        Church 
        publica-
tions. So 
        long 
        as 
        home 
        missionaries 
        devote 
        so 
        much 
        of 
        their 
        time
to 
        reading 
        about 
        criminal 
        sensations, 
        prize-fights 
        and 
        politics, 
        and
so 
        little 
        of 
        their 
        time 
        to 
        the 
        study 
        of 
        the 
        Gospel, 
        so 
        long 
        will 
        we
continue 
        to 
        have 
        poor, 
        dry, 
        husky 
        sermons. 
        It 
        seems 
        to 
        me 
        that
men 
        who 
        profess 
        to 
        be 
        and 
        call 
        themselves 
        ministers 
        of 
        the 
        Gos-
pel should 
        devote 
        at 
        least 
        as 
        much 
        time 
        to 
        the 
        study 
        of 
        the 
        things
of 
        God, 
        as 
        they 
        do 
        to 
        the 
        things 
        of 
        the 
        world. 
        The 
        sooner 
        that
home 
        missionaries 
        learn 
        that 
        the 
        gifts 
        of 
        God 
        cannot 
        be 
        had 
        merely
for 
        the 
        asking, 
        that 
        they 
        must 
        couple 
        works 
        with 
        their 
        faith, 
        the
better 
        it 
        will 
        be 
        for 
        themselves 
        and 
        their 
        congregations.
True, 
        the 
        Savior 
        said, 
        "Ask 
        and 
        ye 
        shall 
        receive," 
        but 
        we
must 
        not 
        forget 
        that 
        he 
        also 
        said, 
        "Search 
        the 
        scriptures," 
        and
that 
        in 
        these 
        latter 
        days 
        he 
        has 
        repeated 
        the 
        injunction, 
        telling 
        us
to 
        "seek 
        for 
        words 
        of 
        wisdom 
        out 
        of 
        good 
        books." 
        What 
        of 
        a 
        dis-
trict school 
        teacher, 
        or 
        a 
        Sunday 
        school 
        teacher, 
        who 
        would 
        stand
before 
        his 
        class, 
        not 
        once, 
        but 
        many 
        times, 
        and 
        repeat 
        the 
        words
of 
        this 
        missionary: 
        "My 
        mind 
        is 
        a 
        complete 
        blank; 
        I 
        have 
        nothing
to 
        say 
        to 
        you 
        this 
        morning?" 
        We 
        would 
        be 
        looking 
        around 
        for 
        hia
successor.

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212 
        IMPROVEMENT 
        ERA.
My 
        brother 
        said 
        that 
        he 
        had 
        nothing 
        to 
        say. 
        What 
        did 
        he
mean? 
        Can 
        it 
        be 
        that 
        all 
        the 
        truth 
        has 
        been 
        told? 
        What 
        about
the 
        great 
        infinite 
        atonement 
        made 
        by 
        the 
        son 
        of 
        God? 
        Is 
        there
nothing 
        new 
        therein 
        to 
        be 
        learned 
        and 
        dwelt 
        upon? 
        Do 
        we 
        know
all 
        there 
        is 
        to 
        learn 
        concerning 
        the 
        sacrifice 
        of 
        the 
        Holy 
        and 
        Just
One? 
        True, 
        we 
        have 
        heard 
        much 
        about 
        the 
        Savior's 
        atoning 
        sacri-
fice; no 
        doubt 
        there 
        are 
        many 
        things 
        connected 
        with 
        that 
        sacrifice
which 
        will 
        not 
        be 
        understood 
        this 
        side 
        of 
        the 
        millennium; 
        but 
        I 
        am
justified 
        in 
        saying 
        that, 
        notwithstanding 
        all 
        that 
        has 
        been 
        said
about 
        it, 
        there 
        is 
        yet 
        in 
        the 
        mediation 
        and 
        atonement 
        of 
        our 
        Re-
deemer enough 
        material 
        for 
        a 
        thousand 
        sermons. 
        In 
        conversation,
recently, 
        with 
        a 
        friend, 
        he 
        told 
        me 
        that 
        many 
        years 
        ago 
        a 
        sister
loaned 
        him 
        seventy-five 
        dollars 
        to 
        enable 
        him 
        to 
        emigrate 
        to 
        Zion.
He 
        came 
        here, 
        and 
        after 
        passing 
        through 
        a 
        few 
        trials, 
        he 
        found
himself 
        on 
        the 
        road 
        to 
        prosperity. 
        But 
        he 
        seemed 
        to 
        forget 
        his
friend 
        and 
        benefactor; 
        and, 
        for 
        a 
        number 
        of 
        years, 
        he 
        did 
        not 
        send
her 
        so 
        much 
        as 
        the 
        interest 
        on 
        her 
        note. 
        But 
        one 
        day 
        he 
        remem-
bered the 
        one 
        who 
        had 
        made 
        it 
        possible 
        for 
        him 
        to 
        gather 
        to 
        Zion.
He 
        said 
        to 
        himself, 
        "It 
        was 
        her 
        money 
        that 
        brought 
        me 
        here. 
        Had
it 
        not 
        been 
        for 
        that 
        kind 
        woman, 
        I 
        might 
        yet 
        be 
        in 
        Babylon 
        work-
ing for 
        a 
        mere 
        pittance. 
        And 
        to 
        think 
        how 
        ungrateful 
        I 
        have 
        been
to 
        her!" 
        He 
        sat 
        down, 
        penned 
        a 
        kind 
        letter, 
        in 
        which 
        he 
        implored
her 
        forgiveness, 
        and 
        enclosed 
        part 
        of 
        the 
        money 
        he 
        had 
        borrowed.
The 
        more 
        we 
        think 
        of 
        that 
        great 
        sacrifice, 
        the 
        atonement 
        of
the 
        Savior, 
        the 
        more 
        do 
        we 
        realize 
        our 
        indebtedness 
        to 
        him 
        who
bought 
        us 
        with 
        his 
        own 
        blood; 
        and 
        the 
        more 
        we 
        realize 
        the 
        price-
less value 
        of 
        that 
        atonement, 
        the 
        more 
        will 
        we 
        strive 
        to 
        love 
        and
serve 
        him. 
        If 
        there 
        were 
        no 
        other 
        subject 
        than 
        the 
        atonement 
        of
Christ 
        to 
        talk 
        about, 
        we 
        should 
        never 
        let 
        any 
        one 
        hear 
        us 
        say 
        that
we 
        have 
        nothing 
        to 
        say.
"Nothing 
        to 
        say!" 
        Surely 
        in 
        the 
        Gospel 
        of 
        Jesus 
        Christ 
        there
are 
        truths 
        which 
        have 
        never 
        yet 
        been 
        fully 
        explained. 
        We 
        have
not 
        come 
        to 
        the 
        end 
        of 
        the 
        "sweetest 
        story 
        ever 
        told." 
        Is 
        it 
        pos-
sible that 
        in 
        this 
        great 
        latter-day 
        work, 
        this 
        "marvelous 
        work 
        and
a 
        wonder," 
        "there 
        is 
        nothing 
        new 
        under 
        the 
        sun?" 
        "Go 
        to 
        the 
        ant,
thou 
        sluggard, 
        consider 
        her 
        ways 
        and 
        be 
        wise." 
        Let 
        us 
        not 
        play
the 
        part 
        of 
        the 
        Prodigal 
        Son, 
        but 
        instead 
        of 
        feeding 
        ourselves 
        and
our 
        hearers 
        on 
        dry 
        husks, 
        let 
        us 
        arise 
        and 
        go 
        to 
        our 
        Father, 
        and
