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periodical: Improvement Era
volume: 2
number: 10
published: 1899-08
publisher: Young Men’s Mutual Improvement Associations
publisher_place: Salt Lake City
language: en
type: magazine
reference: 'Young Men’s Mutual Improvement Associations, "Editor’s Table: Talks to the Young Men; Some Words on Tithing; The Place of Man in the Universe," *Improvement Era* 2, no. 10 (August 1899): 781–788.'
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# Editor’s Table: Talks to the Young Men; Some Words on Tithing; The Place of Man in the Universe

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EDITOR'S TABLE.

TALKS TO THE YOUNG MEN —SOME WORDS ON TITHING.

                       BY THE SENIOR EDITOR.

     The subject of the payment of tithing is being discussed at
present in every circle of the Church.         What is your standing
regarding this principle?    How have you complied with the law?
     Upon the nature of your reply to these questions depend some
very important results, as far as you are individually concerned.
     The doctrine is not new. Joseph and Oliver introduced it into
their lives as early as the days of Kirtland, in     1834,* and it was

     * On the evening of the 29th of November I united in prayer with
Brother Oliver, for the continuance of blessings. After giving thanks
for the relief which the Lord had lately sent us by opening the hearts of
the brethren from the east to loan us $430; after commencing and
rejoicing before the Lord on this occasion, we agreed to enter into the
following covenant with the Lord: That if the Lord will prosper us in our
business, and open the way before us, that we may obtain means to pay
         —
our debts that we be not troubled nor brought into disrepute before
                         —
the world, nor his people after that, of all that he shall give us, we
will give a tenth, to be bestowed upon the poor in his church, or as he
shall command; and that we will be faithful over that which he has
entrusted to our care, that we may obtain much; and that our children
after us, shall remember to observe this sacred and holy covenant; and
that our children, and our children's children, may know of the same, we
have subscribed our names with our own hands,
                                                Joseph Smith, Jr.,
                                                Oliver Cowdery.
—From the Life of Joseph Smith.

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given as a law to the Church in 1838, after the Saints had prac-
tically rejected the more perfect law of consecration. It has
been renewed at this particular time, through President Lorenzo
Snow, who has been inspired to warn the people, upon his recent
visit to the southern settlements,      and also in the late conference
of the young men, that the Lord is displeased with the negligence
displayed    in   its   present observance, or    it   might be      said,   non-
observance.       It is plainly related in   the revelation (Sec. 119 Doc.
and Cov.) that by this law shall the land of Zion be sanctified unto
the Lord, and that if his people observe not this law, it shall not
be a land of Zion unto them.         President    Snow has stated       that   it

has been revealed to him that the Saints are not obeying this law;
and, because of their negligence in this respect, the Lord is not
pleased with them; and, further, they can           make no demand upon
the promise that this shall remain a land of Zion unto them.
     Now, what is tithing? The best and simplest answer, and
from which all answers must in the end be taken, is that given by
the Lord in reply to a similar question from the Prophet Joseph:
"0 Lord, show unto thy servants how much thou requirest of the
properties of the people for a tithing?" The reply is plain: "Verily,
thus saith the Lord, I require all their surplus property to be put
                                                                                *
into the hands of the bishop of my Church in Zion.               *       *

And this shall be the beginning of the tithing of my people; and
after that, those who have thus been tithed, shall pay one-tenth of
all   their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto
them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord."
    Some persons are fond of caviling on the word interest, desir-
ing to prove      how little or how much should be paid in tithing.
Such dickering and pinching, and such arguments, are not                 in line
with the inspirations of the Spirit of God.            Tithing   is one-tenth;

and the true tithing record is that which is kept in our own con-
sciences, not only that which is kept in the bishop's books.
                                                           These
may not record all.    But that other book of conscience will not
only record all that is done but also what has been left undone.
Every man will receive according to his works and the record.
When we are not honest with ourselves we cannot be honest with
God, and we are not in a position to receive the promised blessings,
and then of what avail is argument? In this matter we are dealing

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EDITORS TABLE.                                    783

personally with God, having in view the building up of Zion in all
its branches,     the spreading of the Gospel, for the salvation of the
dead and the living; having in view the purpose of giving power
and influence to the Presidency of the Church so that they may
accomplish and further the will of God.                        We must be honest,
therefore, with ourselves, and in this               way we cannot deal dishon-
estly with God.      A great or a small showing on the record, then,
is   not a criterion for judgment.             The question for each of us to
answer is, Have I dealt honestly and                liberally with the    Lord, as I
desire   that he     shall    deal     with    me    in     the fulfillment of   His
promises?
       There are three reasons why we should pay tithing:
       First, that   we may be entitled to the blessings, for it is a
principle with promise.         "Bring ye          all   the tithes into the store-
house, and prove      me now herewith, saith the Lord of Hosts, if I
will   not open >you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a
blessing, that there shall not be room                   enough to receive it.   And
I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes,                  and he shall not destroy
the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit
before the time in the        field,      saith the Lord of Hosts."         (Malachi
3: 10, 11.
       Second, because       we should fear the consequences of diso-
bedience.    It is written:    "Behold, now it is called today (until the
coming of the Son of man), and verily it is a day of sacrifice, and
a day for the tithing of my people for he that is tithed shall not
                                               :

be burned (at his coming.)" 0, say you, do 'you believe the Lord
will burn the disobedient?     Yes, I do.    We are told that when
God shall again cleanse  the earth it shall be by fire, and it is evi-
dent that all who are not in harmony with the laws of God shall
be consumed by the burning. "For, behold, the day cometh, that
shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea,and all that do wickedly,
shall burn as stubble;        and they that come shall burn them, saith
the Lord of       Hosts,     that    it    shall   leave    them neither root nor
branch."
     The earth also will be visited by earthquakes, storms, pesti-
lence and fire. We have abundant evidence, in what we have seen,
or read of in the history of the world, and our own times, of what
devastation may be wrought by God when he sets the elements in

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motion.       It is   a precious promise that he who      is   tithed shall not
be burned at his coming.
     Third, and this is the greatest reason, because God commands
it, it is   a duty to obey; and because it is good and right to obey.
We are his children; we must be obedient to him.                He who prom-
ises and does not fulfill, cuts himself off,       but the obedient continue
to be the sons of God.
       Who shall pay tithing?        All     members who have an interest.
That includes all who live. It includes even the poor who obtain
their support from the Church.    When the poor come unto the
Bishop for help, their names should appear on his ward record as
tithe payers, for then they can demand help.           If they pay no tithes

how can they be heirs to the blessings.    They have no claim.
Would you cut them off from the promises and blessings because
they are poor, helpless and dependent?             What, are they and their
children not to have the right to an inheritance in the land of Zion?
God forbid.       Parents should teach their children to pay tithing,
and instill this principle into their hearts.        Few children or young
people,      who are members        of   the Church, are entirely without
means.  They should be taught to pay tithes on the mites that
come into their possession, and should take their little records
annually and settle with the bishop, be their tithes, in amount, no
larger than sums ranging from a nickel to a dollar.                  They are
Church members; they should thus early be taught to reckon with
the Lord, because it is his command, it is right, it is a principle
with precious promise,         it   is   a   protection against    curses and
burning.
      Brethren, ask yourselves, what has been your conduct con-
cerning this principle?       What reckoning could you make with
God?        What record does your conscience show? Have you trained
yourselves by the payment of a liberal tithing, even       more than is
due, for the consecration that is      coming to this people? Remem-
ber, we are growing.         Zion must progress and be redeemed before
many years shall pass away. Men will be tried with this principle.
It will be seen who will obey God rather than their own selfishness.

It will make or undo us.   Remember, all that we have belongs to
God and his cause. From them we receive not only all that we
have in this world, but the rewards of eternal             life in   the next.

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                          EDITORS TABLE.                             785

We cannot afford to haggle with them. God has been lenient with
the shortcomings of the people in the past, but from this time on
we are not assured of forgiveness for neglect in this important
matter.

             THE PLACE OF MAN IN THE UNIVERSE.

     In the Era for     May was an article on the "Leaven of the
Gospel," in which reference       was made to the change that was
gradually coming over theological thought with respect to man,
and his importance as relating to the possibilities that lie before
                         —                       —
"the real man of God" the righteous man in a limitless future.
Since that article was written a friend has called our attention to
an article in Self Culture, for March which makes reference to a
recent lecture of Sir Robert Ball's, who, without disparagement to
others, may be referred to as the leading English astronomer; and
who is described as "a man with singular capacity for popularizing
science without debasing it."          That article is so apropos of what
was written in the Era on the subject alluded to, that we quote in
part the Self Culture article.     «

         In the course of Sir Robert's lecture in substance he said:
"We know of the existence of thirty millions of stars or suns, many
of them much more magnificent than the one which gives light to
our system."
     "The majority of* them are not visible to the eye, or even
recognizable by the telescope, but sensitized photographic plates
which are for this purpose eyes that can stare unwinking for hours
 at a time   — have revealed their existence beyond all doubt or ques-
 tion,    though most of them are almost inconceivably distant,
 thousands or tens of thousands of times as far off as our sun. A
 telegraphic message, for example, which would reach the sun in
 eight minutes, would not reach some of these stars in eighteen
 hundred years. The human mind, of course, does not really con-

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 ceive such distances, though they can be expressed in formulae
which the human mind has devised, and the bewildering statement
is from one point of view singularly depressing.  It reduces so

greatly the probable importance of           man in the universe.       It is

most improbable, almost impossible, that these great centers of
light should have been created to light up nothing, and as they are
far too distant to be of use to us, we may fairly accept the hypoth-
esis that    each one has a system of planets round it like our own.
Taking an average of only ten planets to each sun, that hypothesis
indicates the existence, within the narrow range to which human
observation is still confined, of at least three hundred millions of
separate worlds, many of them doubtless of gigantic size, and it
is nearly inconceivable that    those worlds can be wholly devoid of
living and sentient beings upon them.
       "Granting the to us impossible hypothesis that the final cause
of the universe is accident, a fortuitous concourse of self-existent
atoms, still the accident which produced thinking beings upon this
little and inferior world must have frequently repeated itself; while

if,   as we hold, there is a sentient Creator, it is difficult to believe,
without a revelation to that effect, that he has wasted such glorious
creative power upon mere masses of insensible matter.         God cannot
love gases.  The high probability, at least, is that there are millions
of worlds   —for, after all, what the sensitized paper sees must be

                                                 —
but an infinitesimal fraction of the whole occupied by sentient
beings— probably mortal in our sense, as all matter must decay
certainly finite.  What then is the relative position of mankind?
If he dies at death, man is a        member of a weak tribe of animals
with inferior physical powers, with keen brains, but very poor
natures, with a very short life, and so insignificant in numbers that
it seems at first sight   possible   —we write with   all reverence   —that
he might be forgotten even by God.          We know, or think we know,
from revelation that he is not forgotten; but there         is no   natural
reason why he should not be, in the sense that any one of the
smaller forest tribes of      Africa    may be forgotten by the most
learned    of   geographers or most benevolent of philanthropists.
We can conceive no thought more depressing than this of the
contemptible insignificance, the almost invisibility, of      man among
the myriads of sentient creatures of       whom he knows, and while he

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EDITOR'S TABLE.                          787

remains here will continue to know, absolutely nothing.      His fate
is the   fate of an animalcule such as science suspects to exist,
below detection or observation by the most searching microscope.
How an unbeliever can be grateful to the astronomer we cannot
imagine, any more than we can imagine how men who see in man-
kind only superior animals, can conceive of humanity as a worthy
object of worship.        We had rather worship the sun, or space,
which at least is grand in this, that it contains all that exists.
     "It is only by believing that the human being has a spirit, and
that it continues to exist after death, that man can in any degree
regain his importance in the scheme of things. Even then he is
but one among many myriads of competitors, and in no way the
center or flower, as he now thinks himself, of creation; but still he
may be an important being, lasting for countless ages, capable
through those ages of perpetual addition to his powers, and of
becoming through all that time of more use in the work of the
universe.    He is, from the astronomer's point of      view, of suf-
                  now, for he only cultivates, and in cultivating
ficiently little use

uses up a single grain of sand. We know nothing about it, of
course, except that man exists after death, which we hold to be
proved at once         by revelation and by the perpetually repeated
experience of a few persons to         whom it has been given to see
dimly and for a few moments beyond the veil which seems to the
majority to drop at death and to be so impenetrable; but it is dif.
ficult to believe that anything created can remain stationary in con-

dition, as even inanimate matter does not do.     Why should it, when
there must be so much, not only to know but to do, in this      illimit-

 able universe?
     "The popular notion that man, once escaped from the confine-
 ment of the body, does nothing except sit on a cloud and sing
 psalms to the glory of a God whose glory is so perfect without
 him that he was content when man was not in        being, rests     upon
 no evidence, whether of reason or revelation, and seems to us
 derived either from man's long experience of overtoil and misery
 and his enjoyment, therefore, of their absence, or from the inher-
 ent Asiatic dislike of exertion. Why should we not work forever
 as well as now? If man can live again, and grow in that
                                                           new life,
                        carry out the always hidden, but necessarily
 and exert himself to

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magnificent purpose of the Creator, then indeed, his existence may
have some importance, and the insignificance of his place of origin
be forgotten. For he has an inherent quality which does not belong,
so far as the mind can see what must always remain partially dark,
even to the Divine; he is capable of effort, and in the effort and
through the effort, not only of growing greater than before, but of
adding force to an inanimate thing like his own body. What if
that power of effort should be slowly aggrandized until man, now
a little higher than the monkey, became a really great being?"
